Zitat:1.Georgien liegt nicht in Europa.

Zitat:2. Die USA rüsten seit Jahren massiv auf. Die Rüstungsausgaben der USA liegen inzwischen schon wieder auf Kalter Krieg Niveau. Der US Wehretat ist größer als der Wehretat aller anderen Staaten der Menschheit zusammen. Wenn dir diese Rüstung immer noch nicht reicht, dann zeigt das nur eins: Schwäche.

Zitat:4.Du willst also den Kosovo wieder heraus rücken, der in Europa liegt? Im Gegenzug für die Südosseten die keinen Lurch interessieren? Bist du noch bei Trost?

Zitat:Es liegt noch in europäischen Kulturkreis

Zitat:der Wehretat der USA mag zwar der größte sie nie Schlagkraft aber ist bei wieten geringer las zur Zeiten Reagans

Zitat:Die Russen können in Europa mehr als 3000 taktische Atomsprengköpfe zu Einsatz bringen wir nicht mahl 200 taktische Sprengköpfe

Zitat:Kurz wir schwimmen in Geld aber unsere Streitkräfte zerfallen und das ohne Geldmangel

Zitat:Seihen wir ehrlich mich beruhigen Geldzählen nicht sondern mich interessiert die zahl der Waffensysteme und die Fähigkeiten den die werden in Krieg eigesetzt

Zitat:aber der Kosovo ist nichts mit Europa, die Kosovo Albaner sind Islamisch, die Serben sind viel mehr Europäer als die die Georgier sind dagegen Christen und den Westlichen Werten zugehörig

Zitat:Wen ich nun die Unrechte Abtrennung des Kosovo Rückgengig mache bekomme ich vieleicht sogar ein echtes europäisches Land aus Russlands Despoten Einflusssphäre hinaus und in Europa hinein

Zitat:Was Georgien und Atomwaffen ging so war dies nicht wirklich ernstgemeint aber in einen solche Szenario würde es doch Sinn machen. Denn ich glaube kaum das die Russen darauf Scharf währe daher währe der Handel wie folgt. Keine Atomwaffen für den Iran und somit auch keine Atomwaffen für Georgien

Zitat: Russians Claim Georgia Plans to Buy Sophisticated Weapons from the U.S.
NOVEMBER 11, 2009
by Giorgi Kvelashvili

On November 9, as the Germans were celebrating the 20th anniversary of the unification of their homeland and the Western world was engaged in jubilant festivities with the old and new leaders of Russia to commemorate the end of the Cold War, Moscow’s influential news agency ITAR-TASS broke a truly sensational story. The U.S., according to ITAR-TASS, had offered Georgia arms and munitions worth more than $100 million.

The story was soon picked up by virtually the entire Russian media with various flashy headlines which stated that “according to Russian intelligence, the United States has offered Georgia arms and munitions worth more than $100 million.”

According to ITAR-TASS, “in response to Tbilisi’s request for military aid” “a large set of weapons, military hardware and ammunition” is planned to be delivered to Georgia by Chicago-based Barrington Alliance, Inc., “with the knowledge and approval of the U.S. government” but “not directly by government agencies” themselves, and that an anonymous source from the Russian intelligence service told ITAR-TASS that the above corporation “sent Georgia a proposal on the delivery of air-defense and antitank missile systems as well as machine guns and ammunition,” namely, such sophisticated antiaircraft and antitank systems as Patriot-3, Stinger, Javelin and Hellfire-2.

To make its story more credible, ITAR-TASS claimed that the general staff of the armed forces of the Russian Federation confirmed the information shared by the anonymous source with the news agency. In addition, the chief of Russia’s military intelligence, Aleksandr Shlyakhturov, informed ITAR-TASS that “Georgia continues to receive armaments from NATO countries, Israel and Ukraine”

When reporting the same story on November 9, one of Russia’s most read Internet newspapers Gazeta.ru came up with this catchy headline “The Russian Intelligence Services Accuse the United States of an Attempt to Sell Georgia Weapons Worth $100 Million,” which makes clear the most important issue of Russia’s discontent – America’s close cooperation with a country Moscow wants to isolate.

The Georgian government swiftly responded to the story. Within hours, Georgia’s foreign ministry came out with a commentary neither denying nor confirming the alleged arms deal with the United States. Rather, the department of press and information of the foreign ministry said in its statement that “beside this announcement [alleging Georgia’s rearmament] Russia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Gregory Karasin recently stated that the United States continues to provide weapons to Georgia and this compels us to take appropriate measures.”

In the same statement, Georgia requested from the Russian Federation that the latter “instead of commenting on the relations between other countries, stop increasing its military potential in occupied Georgian territories, respect the principles and norms of international law…and withdraw its troops from Georgian soil.”

Russia has long been trying to prevent the strengthening of Georgia’s military ties with other countries and first and foremost with the United States, and it seems Moscow is deeply concerned that despite its tireless efforts Tbilisi’s cooperation with Washington has not receded. So far, high-ranking American officials have claimed that American military assistance to Georgia has exclusively been in the form of training Georgian troops and helping Tbilisi in strategic planning and logistics.

Nonetheless, Moscow looks alarmed by Washington’s pledge – as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in Moscow – that it “will help the Georgian people to feel like they can defend themselves.”

As U.S. Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs Alexander Vershbow also affirmed, “America wants to have Georgia as “a strong, independent and sovereign partner that will be able to defend itself.”

Georgians believe that their defeat during Russia’s military aggression in August 2008 was mostly due to their county’s poor antiaircraft and antitank capabilities. Furthermore, many think that had Georgia been better prepared militarily, Russia would not have resorted to war in the first place fearing high costs and mass casualties. Nevertheless, if Georgia indeed plans to buy the above-mentioned sophisticated American systems, they must be viewed as just one way of preventing Russian military aggression in the future.

Without becoming a full member of the Western collective security system with all the political, military and diplomatic assurances it entails, even a well-armed Georgia will hardly be able to prevent war with Russia and secure its sovereignty, territorial integrity and foreign-policy orientation in the long run.

Zitat: New Base

New dislocation place for the First Artillery Brigade of the Georgian Armed Forces was opened. President of Georgia Mikheil Saakashvili, Defence Minister Bacho Akhalaia, Chief of Joint Staff of GAF, Major General Devi Chankotadze attended the opening ceremony. President congratulated soldiers with the opening of the new base and spoke about ongoing modification in the Defence system. President emphasized the strategic importance of participation of Georgian troops in the NATO peacekeeping mission in Afghanistan. Through participation in such missions Georgian servicemen will be given opportunity to increase their experience. “There is no doubt that this operation contains risk factor and there are no illusions in this case, but all of you presented here, you do not have fear and are ready take a risk. We know that after Russian aggression more volunteers expressed desire to serve than before the violence. We are proud of them who have battled and made supreme sacrifice for the Homeland,” stated the President.

Mikheil Saakashvili stressed the fact that Georgian Armed Forces must be prepared on high level, “Georgian Armed Forces must be well prepared, know much about high technologies and have a good command of a foreign languages … without having skills in best practices it is impossible to perform modern warfare, modern battle filed contains advanced technologies”, the President mentioned.

“There is an important fact that we were able to rebuilt infrastructure ruined during the war. This is a new base for the First Artillery Brigade, which was created after the war when the existent only one artillery brigade was divided in two new brigades,” the Defence Minister said.

The new base was built in compliance with international standards in the course of 8 months. The complex of the base includes barracks, canteen, training centre, gym, stadium, medical centre and administrative building. The infrastructure buildings are equipped with cutting edge technologies.

Zitat: U.S. Army to Complete Installation of Radar Stations on Black Sea Coast in January
08:19 GMT, December 11, 2009 GONIO, Georgia | In January, the last of three U.S.-funded radar stations on the Black Sea coast of Georgia will open, marking the completion of a significant international assistance program aimed at helping a key U.S. ally protect its maritime borders, said James Kelly, chief of party for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Georgia Border Security and Law Enforcement assistance program.

"The radar stations are important because they permit the Georgian Coast Guard to monitor Georgia's maritime borders and identify vessels entering and exiting Georgian territorial waters," said Kelly. "It is very satisfying to be able to assist our allies in strengthening their capabilities and to be able to assist them in their reform and modernization efforts."

The station, located in Gonio near the Turkish border, cost about $500,000 and took just over three years to complete, said Charles Samuel, chief of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Europe District's Georgia Project Office that oversaw the design and construction contracts for all three radar stations. The other two stations, which had a similar construction and purpose, were built in Chakvi, half-way up the Black Sea coast of Georgia for about $600,000 and Anaklia, in the northern coastal area of Georgia, for about $540,000.

Samuel, who also oversees infrastructure projects for the Georgian Border Police and Revenue Service as well as humanitarian assistance projects funded through the U.S. European Command, said he was excited to help the Georgian Coast Guard on such essential projects.

"It's really been wonderful to assist this nation with such projects," said Samuel, whose office is based out of the capital, Tbilisi. "Projects like this truly help Georgia develop and grow the capabilities of its own institutions, like its coast guard."

Kelly said that working with the District on these projects has been "a real pleasure."

"Charles Samuel and his team have been responsive to our needs, accessible, and professional throughout the design and construction phases of each of the three radar projects," he said.

Taken into context, the facilities are just a few of the many examples in the region that illustrate the United States' support to regional border security objectives, Kelly said. These stations act as "enforcement tools that enhance Georgian capabilities to prevent, deter and detect contraband smuggling, illicit weapons trafficking, the illegal migration of aliens, and to address terrorism threats."

With a coastline of almost 200 miles - a large slice of the Black Sea - and borders with Russia and the Middle East, Georgia has historically been a main thoroughfare for illegal trafficking. The aim of GBSLE assistance program, Kelly said, has been to give Georgia the capability to control the movement of people and goods across its borders to reduce the threat of weapons smuggling and other illicit trafficking .

"Such projects enhance Georgia's status as a sovereign nation and assist them in becoming a self-sustaining country, which is less dependent on long-term foreign assistance," Kelly said.

The facility is the latest of 18 Corps-managed facilities including several border-crossing stations funded under the GBSLE assistance program.

Future Europe District projects under the GBSLE program include the construction of a $700,000 customs training facility in Lilo and a $300,000 language lab for the Georgian Coast Guard in Batumi, the dredging of a section of Georgia's main commercial and military port in Poti, and renovations to a boat and machine shop also in Poti.

The latter two projects will be funded through a new U.S. assistance initiative called the Export Control and Border Security (EXBS) program, managed by the State Department's Bureau of International Security and Nonproliferation.


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Justin M. Ward
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Europe District

Zitat:Lawmaker urges NATO to consider arms for Georgia

WASHINGTON — A senior Republican senator is urging the Obama administration and European allies to consider rearming Georgia, an action that would inevitably upset Russia.

The recommendation comes from Indiana Sen. Richard Lugar, a lawmaker who has long cultivated cooperation with Russia. Lugar has been a key ally for President Barack Obama on his pursuit of an arms control deal with Russia that has been the centerpiece of the administration's efforts to improve relations with the Kremlin. He also is leading efforts to win essential Republican votes to ratify the treaty once it has been completed.

During the brief August 2008 war, Russia destroyed much of Georgia's military infrastructure and occupied two breakaway territories. Russia has since recognized both Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent countries and established military bases close to their borders with Georgia proper.

A report by Lugar's staff, to be released Tuesday, warns that Georgia's military vulnerability could lead to further instability in the Caucasus amid continuing tensions between Georgia and Russia. It urges the administration to coordinate a strategy within NATO that strikes a balance between Georgia's security needs and NATO's relationship with Russia.

"The Alliance must come to grips with the reality that Georgia will require coordinated security support from America and European nations for some years to come," Lugar writes in a letter accompanying the report....

revan schrieb:.... würde sich auch die Bereitschaft signifikant erhöhen Georgien notwendige Hilfe zu gewähren.

Erich schrieb:damit die georgische Regierung das nächste Desaster vom Zaun bricht?

Erich schrieb:dann war es auch Blödsinn, dass die georgische Regierung den letzten Krieg definitv angefangen hat?

Kosmos schrieb:Einzige Folge der Waffenlieferungen an Georgien wird sein dass georgische Führung eines Tages erneut eigene Kräfte überschätzt und Russland zum Eingreifen zwingt.