U-Boot-Unglücke

[Shahab3]

ich glaube mit der Karriere schauts auch nicht mehr so rosig aus...

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US submarine captain relieved of command over undersea collision: navy

WASHINGTON (AFP) Feb 12, 2005

The US Navy relieved from command the captain of a US nuclear-powered submarine that rammed into an undersea mountain in the Pacific last month, killing one crew member and injuring 98 others.

Commander Kevin Mooney was removed for failing to follow crucial navigational procedures before the USS San Francisco crashed into the mountain, and he also received a letter of reprimand following a hearing in Yokosuka, Japan, the navy said.

In announcing the decision by Vice Admiral Jonathan Greenert, commander of the Seventh Fleet, the navy said investigators had found that "several critical navigational and voyage planning procedures were not being implemented" aboard the submarine.
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[pseunym]

Ein submarine der Royal Navy ist anscheinend Ende letzten Jahres verlorengegangen:
Die HMS Oracle, welche jahrelang in Portmouth an der Pier vor sich hinrostete wurde letztes Jahr in Richtung Abwraker in der Tuerkei geschickt. Ein paar Wochen spaeter tauchte der Schlepper auf dem Radar der Verkehrsueberwachung in der Strasse von Gibraltar auf, war aber augenscheinlich zu schnell fuer Schleppoperationen, lief dann einen marikanischen Hafen an, lag dort drei tage, um dann wieder zurueckzulaufen und in Portugal gesehen zu werden.
Was genau mit dem U-Boot passiert ist, weiss niemand, aber es wird vermutet, dass entweder im Sturm die Trosse gerissen war und die Verbindung nicht wiederhergestellt werden konnte, oder aber, dass das U-Boot, welches wohl schon ordentlich Rost angesetzt hatte und welches, Berichten von RN Personnal zufolge, vor dem Schleppen ausgepumt werden musste, im Sturm Wasser gemacht hat, un deswegen die Trosse gekappt werden musste, und es nun versunken ist.
Von der Besatzung des Schleppers gibt es bisher keine Aussagen.

(Quelle: Royal Navy News)

[saturn5]

Shahab3 postete
ich glaube mit der Karriere schauts auch nicht mehr so rosig aus...

Saturn5 postete
Trotz meiner vorhersage, anscheinend hat die Karriere des Komandats den Unfall doch noch überlebt. Der U-Berg war nicht auf den karten zu sehen.

@Shahab3:

Du hattest Recht. Die Karriere des Kommandant von USS San Francisco hat den Kollision mit dem U-berg nicht überlebt. Er wurde endgültig von seinem Posten gehoben.

"YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) -- The commander of U.S. 7th Fleet, Vice Adm. Jonathan W. Greenert, relieved Cmdr. Kevin Mooney of his command of USS San Francisco (SSN 711) Feb. 12. The decision to relieve Cmdr. Mooney was made following non-judicial punishment (NJP) proceedings held in Yokosuka, Japan. Additionally, as a result of the NJP, Mooney received a Letter of Reprimand."

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[Falcon]

U.S.S. San Francisco auf Grund gelaufen... 08.01.2005

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edit: Das mit der San Francisco hab ich "oben" übersehen. Sorry!!!!!

[saturn5]

Hier ist eine zweite Liste (die erste hat ja Blindfish schon geschrieben) mit den Unfaellen der Sovietischen U-Boote.

Source: Commander Gregory D. Young, USN ®, Proceedings Magazine, April 2005, page 70-74


Soviet Cold War Submarine Accidents with known Fatalities

• Whiskey-class S-117 sank 15 December 1952 in the Tatar Straits in the Sea of Japan. All 47 crewmen perished.

• Quebec-class M-256 sank in the Baltic Sea on 26 September 1956. A raging fire started in the closed-cycle diesel compartment and swept throughout the boat, destroying her structural integrity. Sources vary, but between 35 and 40 crewmen died, including the captain.

• Quebec-class (M-200) Komsomolets collided on 21 November 1956 with a Soviet destroyer, experienced a fire ignited by liquid oxygen, and exploded and sank near Tallinn, Estonia. A total of 28 crewmen died, and only 7 were saved. The M-200 had participated in the attempt to rescue the victims of the M-256 tragedy two months earlier. The Quebec-class boats were so fire prone, they were known as "cigarette lighters" by Soviet Navy personnel.

• Whiskey twin-cylinder-class S-80 sank with her crew of 68 men on 27 January 1961 in the Barents Sea because of flooding from a snorkel or hatch failure. When she was
raised and salvaged in July 1969, emergency oxygen still was on board the boat. All food had been consumed, and crewmen who were still on board had died of carbon dioxide poisoning.

• Hotel-class K-19 suffered a reactor cooling failure on 4 July 1961. This now has been well documented by a book and movie of the same name. Eight sailors died of radiation exposure while repairing the main coolant piping to prevent reactor meltdown. The entire reactor compartment was cut out of the submarine and replaced with two new reactors, and the sub returned to service in 1964. Subsequently, the boat narrowly survived a collision with the USS Gato (SSN-615) in 1969, only to suffer a more serious fate on 24 February 1972, when another 28 lives were lost in a hydraulic fire that erupted in compartment 9. This accident occurred 600 nautical miles northeast of Newfoundland. The submarine was then towed back to port by the cruiser Vice Admiral Drozd with 12 crewmen trapped in compartment 12 for the entire three-week voyage home. They all survived in the dark on canned food and water that condensed on the hull. The K-19 waspatched again and returned to service. She again suffered fires in 1976 and 1988, before her decommissioning in 1991. Her nicknames, "Hiroshima" and "widowmaker," clearly were well deserved.

• Foxtrot-class B-37 suffered a massive explosion while at the pier in her home port on 11 January 1962, most likely owing to hydrogen gas accumulation that ignited when electrical systems were brought on line. The torpedoes in the bow section then exploded, killing 132 people; 59 were B-37 crewmen, 19 were crewmen from adjacent submarines. and 54 more were on shore. The force of the blast propelled the vessel's anchor 1.2 miles from the dock.

• In the Leninsky Komsomolsk, the first of the November class K-3 and the first Soviet nuclear-powered submarine, the hydraulic system in compartment 1 (forward torpedo space) caught fire on 8 September 1967 under the Arctic. Some 39 sailors died from fire and suffocation because of the carbon dioxide extinguishing system in compartment 2. Luckily, the fire died out before the torpedoes—some nuclear-tipped—ignited. Heroic action by one of the officers, who kept the hatch to the afflicted compartment closed, saved the boat. But his heroism also ensured his death and those of everyone in the compartment.

• Golf II-class K-129 was lost 8 March 1968, approximately 750 miles north of Hawaii in the northern Pacific with all 98 hands. Many Russians still contend that the trailing USS Swordfish (SSN-579) rammed the K-129. The U.S. version is that hydrogen from the batteries or a torpedo exploded and sank the boat. The SOSUS (sound surveillance system) gave the United States the precise location of the K-129 hulk, and in 1974 part of her was raised by the CIA's Project Jennifer, which used Howard Hughes's Glomar Explorer.

• November Mod-class K-27, with a prototype liquid metal-cooled reactor, experienced a nuclear accident. The incident was reported to be on 24 May 1968; ten crewmen died and others suffered radiation exposure.

• November-class K-8 sank under tow while returning from exercise Okean 70 on 12 April 1970. An internal fire in compartments 8 and 9 asphyxiated 13 men. The captain had transferred 43 of his men to a Bulgarian cargo 'hip but was ordered by Moscow to send the men back in board to try to save the boat. While being towed in heavy seas, the towline snapped and water began to pour in. forcing a second effort to abandon ship; 22 crewmen, including the captain, went down with the sub. Ten years earlier, the K-8 had suffered a steam generator leak, forcing an emergency surfacing in the Arctic with both reactors shut down. Although no crewmen died, 42 received radiation doses equal to those from the Chemobyl disaster and suffered serious health consequences afterward.

• Echo II-class K-108 collided with the USS Tautog (SSN-639) in June 1970 off the Kamchatka Peninsula. Some Soviet veterans insist the boat sank and the incident was kept secret, but Russian authorities today contend it returned safely to port in Petropavlovsk with no fatalities.

• Echo II-class K-56 collided with the Soviet research vessel Academic Berg on 14 June 1973; 27 crewmen and a shipyard specialist were killed.

• Echo II-class K-47 suffered a fire in compartment 8 on 26 September 1976 in the Barents Sea. Eight crewmen died.

• Delta I-class K-171 experienced a fire on 1 October 1976 in the missile compartment, killing three officers attempting to fight the fire.

• Whiskey-class S-178 suffered an explosion and fire following a nighttime collision with a Soviet refrigerated fishing trawler (RFS-13) on 21 October 1978. The sub sank in less than ten seconds into the Pacific Ocean near Vladivostok. The death toll was 32, but 22 survived on the bottom for two days in 115 feet of water in the pitch-dark hull. Divers and two rescue submarines provided heroic rescue efforts.

• Echo I-class K-222 suffered a reactor fire on 21 August 1980 about 90 nautical miles east of Okinawa. Nine crewmen suffocated in the fire-suppression system. The submarine was towed to Vladivostok.

• Charlie I-class K-429 flooded and sank in 150 feet of water on 23 June 1983 in Sarannaya Bay off the Kamchatka Peninsula. The daring work of the captain and divers saved 104 of the 109 crewmen, most of whom had to make a free ascent to the surface from a torpedo tube or escape hatch. The boat was salvaged and returned to active service. Later in the same year, on 13 September, the K-429 sank at the pier at her home base, killing 16 of the 90 men on board. The captain was tried and imprisoned as a result of the second sinking. The boat was raised again and leased to India, where she was renamed Chakra.

• Echo II-class K-131 experienced a fire in compartment 8 on 18 June 1984 while returning to base on the Kola Peninsula; 13 crewmen died.

• Golf II-class boat suffered electrical overload leading to a fire in the Sea of Japan, 18 September 1984, after snagging a Japanese fishing net cable. The boat made it to Vladivostok under her own power; 13 crewmen died.

• Echo II-class K-43 I suffered a massive reactor explosion while refueling at Chasma Bay near Vladivostok on 10 August 1985, vaporizing ten men instantly. (This was reported previously as a Victor I.)

• Yankee I-class Navaga (K-2J9) suffered a ballistic missile explosion because of water interacting with missile liquid propellant (nitrogen tetroxide) 600 nautical miles east of Bermuda on 3 October 1986. The boat sank three days later with four men killed, mostly from the toxic fumes caused by fuel-water interaction. This was the second missile fire accident on this boat. The captain was charged with crimes against the state, but Mikhail Gorbachev ordered the charges dropped. This same ballistic-missile submarine had suffered a previous missile fuel leak and fire in silo 15 on 31 August 1973. One sailor was killed fighting the fire. The damaged silo was sealed permanently, and the boat returned to active service only to suffer a similar but more serious incident 13 years later.

• Mike-class prototype Komsomolets (K-278) sank on 7 April 1989, 112 nautical miles off the Norwegian coast. An on-board fire that started in compartment 7 burned out of control; the fire at one point burned so hot that seawater around the boat began to boil. Four men died from the fire and 38 died of exposure and hypothermia in the icy water after being forced to abandon the boat. Six officers, including the captain, went down with the K-278. One of these men died at his post while trying to restore electrical power and force air into ballast tanks to keep the boat afloat. Five others, including the captain, attempted to enter the sub's escape capsule, but he and two officers succumbed to fumes before they could reach the pod. The rescue pod failed to operate properly and would not release from the rapidly sinking hull. As the Komsomolets hit the ocean floor the pod finally released and shot to the surface. At the surface, the differential pressure killed one of the survivors when the hatch was opened, and only one man survived the harrowing ascent. This was the second so-named sub to perish.

• Echo II-class K-/92 suffered a nuclear accident off Bear Island in the Barents Sea on 26 June 1989. A leak in the primary coolant caused radioactive water to be pumped into the sea. Casualties are unknown.

Post-Cold War Russian Submarine Accidents

• Oscar II-class Kursk (K-14I} sank 12 August 2000 in the Barents Sea because of a volatile hydrogen peroxide-fueled torpedo explosion. All 118 crewmen on board perished; 29 survived for approximately 49 hours on the bottom in 650 feet of water.

• November-class K-159 sank under tow to be scrapped on 15 September 2003: nine crewmen on board perished.

As indicated by this long list 758 crewmen have died in 50 years of Soviet/Russian Cold War submarine operations. In some incidents, casualty numbers remain unknown. Not counting the Kursk and the most recent sinking in September 2003. 24 accidents have occurred on 22 submarines. During the Cold War, Soviet submarines made more than 2,000 deployments around the world.

Source: Commander Gregory D. Young, USN ®, Proceedings Magazine, April 2005, page 70-74

[Tiger]

Der Unfall, den das australische U-Boot HMASub Dechaineux vor einiger Zeit hatte, war wohl übler als bislang bekannt geworden:
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Sub 20 seconds from death
By Cameron Stewart

AN Australian submarine carrying 55 sailors was seconds from sinking to the bottom of the Indian Ocean following a catastrophic on-board flood off the coast of Perth.

The near-tragedy has forced the navy to permanently reduce the diving depth of its fleet of six Collins-class submarines for safety reasons - a move that has weakened their military capability.
An investigation by The Weekend Australian has revealed that an accident on board HMAS Dechaineux on February 12, 2003, was more serious than the navy has publicly admitted.

"I don't think there was anybody on our boat who wasn't shit-scared that day," said Able Seaman Geordie Bunting, who almost drowned in the flood and who has now spoken about it for the first time.

[saturn5]

Amerikanisches U-Boot kolliediert mit einem Türkischen Frachter im Gulf.

U.S. Navy Submarine Collides With Turkish Merchant Ship in Gulf; No One Injured in Crash
The Associated Press
Sep. 5, 2005 - A U.S. Navy submarine collided early Monday with a Turkish merchant ship in the Gulf, the U.S. Navy reported. No one was hurt on either vessel.

The USS Philadelphia was traveling on the surface of the Gulf when it hit the Turkish-flagged M/V Yaso Aysen, a cargo ship, at around 2:00 a.m. local time, the U.S. Navy 5th Fleet Headquarters in Bahrain reported in a statement...

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wire...SFeeds0312

[Shahab3]

Innerhalb von 14 Monaten war das schon der 2. Unfall mit einem amerikanischen Uboot im Perischen Golf. tjoar...nich so wirklich ruhmreich...

[Tiger]

Die Schäden, die USSub Philadelphia bei dieser Kollision erhalten hat, sind offenbar schwerer als erwartet:
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Groton — The collision between the USS Philadelphia and a Turkish merchant ship in the Persian Gulf this week left the two ships entangled, unable to separate for more than an hour, Navy sources said.

[saturn5]

Laut dieser Artikel soll die Türkische Frachter den U-Boot von hinten angefahren (wenn ich es so sagen darf).

Warum haben die Wachen der beiden Schiffe sich nicht gesehen? Operieren die Amerikanische U-Boote an der Oberflaeche ihre Radars nicht? War das Boot unter Emcom?

[pseunym]

Laut den Navy News war der Frachter ausweichpflichtig und hat wohl die Länge des subs unterschätzt und zu wenig Ruder gelegt, bzw. zu früh Gegenruder gegeben.
Da kann das Sub nichts für, wenn der türkische Wachhabende nicht genug Abstand beim Ausweichen einhält.

[saturn5]

Vieleicht waren die Wachhabende der Frachter gar nicht so schuldig. Bei einigen blogs der ehmeligen US U-Boot matrozen heisst es, dass die US U-Boote bei naechtlichen Überwasserfahrten ihre navigationlichter überhaupt nicht an machen. Wenn es der Falls war, dann waere ein halb getauchtes schwarzes ohne navigationslichter U-Boot in der Nacht fast unmöglich zu sehen.

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[Snakeshit]

PERSISCHER GOLF
Atom-U-Boot rammt japanischen Tanker
Im Persischen Golf ist es zu einer Schiffskollision gekommen, die eine Umweltkatastrophe hätte auslösen können: Ein atomgetriebenes U-Boot der US-Marine stieß mit einem japanischen Tanker zusammen. Doch der Unfall verlief glimpflich. (...)

Quelle:
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[flex]

na, da war das Schraubengeräusch des 160T t Tankes wohl zu leise für die Newport News...... :lol:

Aber wenn da unten mal ne Ölpest oder ne Strahlungswolke wegen US Schiffen auftritt, wird das sicherlich nicht die Freunde der USA, vor allem in dieser Region, vermehren.

[Nasenbaer]

HMS Vanguard und Triomphant sind kollidiert. Keines der beiden Schiff ist gesunken, aber Vanguard musste offenbar nach Schottland geschleppt werden. Triomphant hat Schäden am Bugsonar. Zusammen sind immerhin 25% der europäischen Nuklearstreitkräfte betroffen.